User talk:Lee sy85

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Hi, thanks for your edits. Would it be possible to get a list of the Crador Crown Ambassadors? --IBOFightback 14:25, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

hiLee sy85 some crown ambassadors are from China and not easy to get their name in eng.

Hi, are all of the following Crown Ambassadors from China?
John & Wan Ming Chen
Zheng Hao tian & Wen Bing
Soon Dong & Ding Shu
Lu Xian Xing
Thanks--SP75 16:23, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

ya... they are crown ambassador from chinaLee sy85 08:32, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Signing Comments

Hi, it would be great if you could remember to always "sign" your comments, like this -> --IBOFightback 13:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC) It makes it easier to keep track of conversations! All you need to do is press the last button on the right on the toolbar, and it adds the code "--~~~~" which gets automatically replaced by the time and person info. Thanks! --IBOFightback 13:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

erm... in fact i dnt know how to do that and i dont even know how to replyLee sy85 i just click the buttont + that beside edit.... is it like this? --Lee sy85 13:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

try try

second try...--Lee sy85 13:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

perfect! Another neat trick is to indent responses. You do that by putting a : at the start of a line. The more you put in, the more it indents :) --IBOFightback 16:37, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
and yes, replying on wiki is just done by editing! So you worked that out fine :) --IBOFightback 16:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
is it like this ? try try..--Lee sy85 07:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
oic... thanks for ur opinion!!!thanks!!--Lee sy85 07:18, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Cham, Eddie & Han

Hi there! I will certainly post more information about this couple as soon as I know! For now, I can say this: they are part of Network TwentyOne and are downline from Tony Henderson. That's all I know about their affiliation. As for their methods, I got an e-mail from my own Diamond (Murray Hogg) proposing to copy the Chams' method of building pipelines 45-50 deep. So that's how I know about how they did that. I'm sorry my information is so scanty, but will provide more as soon as I am able. Davidcannon 11:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

oic~~ thanks for ur info. Do u mind to share that what means by pipelines 45-50 deep? thanks.--Lee sy85 02:52, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
I heard Eddie speak at an N21 seminar in Europe a few months ago. He's been an IBO for a long time, went Platinum many years ago and sat there. He's downline of Tony Henderson and works the Team 21 strategy taught by Network TwentyOne. They'll be recognized in the Amagram probably early next year, I'll post his story from that then, if not sooner. --IBOFightback 13:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
They are Chinese right? Do u know how many LOA currently active in New Zealand market? thanks.
Hello again. The pipeline is a Network TwentyOne concept. The "traditional" method of sponsoring is that I sponsor my friends, and they sponsor their friends, etc. In Network 21, we build our teams VERTICALLY. If I have two friends, I sponsor only one directly. I then get him to sponsor the other one. Friend #1 may then get Friend #2 to sponsor HIS friend. Meanwhile, I may have persuaded a third friend to join the business and will sign him up under him. If you belong to the team, anyone YOU find gets sponsored by the LAST person who joined the team. I continue the process until the team is about 10 "deep" from me - and THEN I start on my next team, by sponsoring somebody personally. 10 deep, then start again. What Eddie Han did was make sure each team got 45-50 deep. He recently shared that strategy with other diamonds, and my own diamond is really excited about following the model. Davidcannon 22:41, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
And yes, Eddie and Han are of Chinese extraction, as are most of the Malaysians in New Zealand. About 80 percent of New Zealand's IBOs are in Network TwentyOne. IDA is also active, and there are a number of micro-organizations. Dreamchasers was a major network, but got disbanded when Diamond] Peter Maddison got deregistered for engaging in business activities incompatible with Amway. Davidcannon 22:45, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Foo Howe Kean FAA65?

Hi, is it official? I mean, do you have any evidence for it? Thanks. --SP75 18:18, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

heard that there will be official announcement after OctoberLee sy85 Lee sy85---

Two new Crown Ambassadors in Malaysia?

Is there any official announcement that there are two new Crown Ambassadors (Amagram recognition, date of the recognition meeting...)?--SP75 05:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

nope. There is no any official announcement on this yet. Both of them just qualified on july 2010. --Lee sy85 05:45, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Great! One more question: do you know whether Steven & Angeline Lim went CA directly from Triple Diamond or whether they qualified as Crowns in between, i.e. did they qualify as Crown and Crown Ambassador simultaneously? Thanks.--SP75 07:27, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
They go CA directly from triple diamond by qualified FAA27 if not mistaken. Lee Yin Chuan go CA with 28 frontline Platinum--Lee sy85 09:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for the explanation. I thought that the source contained some interesting information about the Asian LOS/LOA. I have deleted the page not to mislead the visitors with inaccurate information. BTW: Can you trace Diamond-to-Diamond LOS up to the Corporation for Asian Crown Ambassadors (Holly & Barry, Sunny Su, etc.)? --SP75 22:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

In fact i not really know the los map. For example, Holly & Barry Chi they never mention who is their upline Diamond, but there was a source from Amway Taiwan, Amway Taiwan sponsored 10 distributors, 1 of the group sponsored Holly & Barry. As I know Holly & Barry upline sponsor was an old retired Taiwan General. This old man only sponsored 2 distributors, and both of them became Crown Ambassadors. Sunny Hsu sponsored by Diamond Xu Xia Guo. Xu Xia Guo was sponsored by Malaysia EDC Tan Siew Lan. EDC Tan Siew Lan was sponsored by Foo Howe Kean in Taiwan. Foo was the first distributor in Taiwan. In Malaysia, Amway sponsored Emerald Gary Giam. Emerald Gary Giam sponsored Crown Ambassador Sonny & Guat Hwa Ho, Diamond Alfred Hendroff, Emerald Lee Kai Loong. This 3 distributors sponsored all Malaysia Amway Distributors.---Lee sy85

Names of Taiwanese Diamonds and above

Hi, could you please transcribe the names of Taiwanese Diamonds and above hereAmway_Taiwan#Triple_Diamond? I have found them in Chinese only.--SP75 18:37, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

If Foo and Sunny Hsu consider china FAA, Holly & Barri also China FAA70 not Taiwan. For my opinion why don't just left them in Chinese? ---Lee sy85(UTC)
I think it was a little misunderstanding. I meant that I had found the names of Taiwanese Diamonds written in Chinese characters only and I don't know their transcription using the Roman alphabet. I've got a software with a romanization tool, but sometimes it gives me more options (ways of transcription) and I don't know which one is correct. Somebody who knows Chinese should have no problem with that.--SP75 09:02, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
ya, what i means just left in Chinese alphabet. This is because need time to translate. ---Lee sy85
I would prefer both variants so that even non-chinese speaking visitors can easily find or search for these Diamonds.--SP75 11:11, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Upline diamond of EDC Lee Ah Peng & Angeline Chee you know who's the upline diamond of Malaysia's EDC Lee Ah Peng & Angeline Chee?? Thanks - Jsooi0110

hi! according to the los map that u provided, upline diamond of lee ah peng is tan siew lan. And where u get this all info?? But sound interesting is, according to the showcase of success, their upline platinum are themselves.---Lee sy85

Hi I actually just put them under Tan Siew Lan is because they come from Ipoh but of cause it is not really true about it. That's y I drop a question here. u mean where I get this whole LOS map? I do it by myself base on the showcase of success and add on every month when the amagram arrive. Is it possible they sponsored themselves by their International Amway Distributorship? - Jsooi0110

is not possible because they still need local sponsor. The only possiblity is the bought over the business, so their uplink would be themselves.......b---Lee sy85
There is also another possibility of how to own 2 business in one market and that is that they started their businesses separately as singles, both achieved Platinum or above, and then they got married. In this case, their names can be added as co-applicants to their partner's business.--SP75 06:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Their upline diamond is EDC Yip Kam Tim and Yoke Kit --Simpleboi 05:34, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Thanks for the information friends! but Simpleboi is it their direct upline is also EDC Yip Kam Tim and Yoke Kit? Thanks - Jsooi0110

Lee Ah Peng & Angeline Chee got their EDC recognition in May 1998 issue of Amagram. It says that their Sponsoring Direct Distributor is Ngan Saik Nam & Yoke Ying and that they were introduced to the business by their best friends Mr. & Mrs. Wong See Choon. Not a word about their upline Diamonds. :-(

Thanks my friends including Simpleboi for providing the information because the direct sponsor of Platinum Direct Distributor Ngan Saik Nam & Yoke Ying is EDC Yip Kam Tim & Yoke Kit. Means that EDC Lee Ah Peng & Angeline Chee is under EDC Yip Kam Tim & Yoke Kit's organization. Thanks - Jsooi0110

Welcome :) EDC Yip is my upline EDC :) --Simpleboi 09:30, 23 November 2010 (UTC)