Talk:Founders Crown Ambassador
Guo-Yuan Du & Ya-Qin Zhu aka Matthew Du
Is there any evidence that Matthew Du achieved the Founders Crown Ambassador level in China? The last time I heard of him, he was "only" a Founders Crown. Is there any official announcement? Is there any official list of Chinese CAs and above? Thanks.--SP75 08:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- As I read the notebook that I lend from my upline Diamond, Guo-Yuan Du & Ya-Qin Zhu aka Matthew Du listed under the Category Founders Triple Diamond and China Founders Council Members. The list Crown Ambassadors and Founders Crown Ambassador and China FAA30 are in the same categories.
So I assume that there are no any official Crown Ambassadors pins in China or in the other way the qualification for them is not really the same. As I saw in the Amway Warehouse, the Rolls of Honors got many pictures just those who in my understanding are Crown Ambassadors are above all of the others. As I know in China EDC and above are in the same level. The next level for EDC is Founders Council Members.--Lee sy85 01:25, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Founders Crown Ambassador
There is no pin level at the 45, 55, 65 levels so there should not be a FCA 45 category on these pages. There is only money at this level but it is not a pin level.
- I think it's fine to have it recognised here, but note that it is a bonus level only. The money itself is a recognition it has been achieved. --IBOFightback 09:18, 25 April 2008 (CDT)
According to the Feb Australian "Because" magazine there are 25 Founders Crown Ambassadors, so there's something up with our list. One possibility is that Chinese ones aren't counted and they didn't yet have the info on some 2008 qualifiers. --IBOFightback 16:21, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- I think these 25 do not include the Chinese pins. If you deduct them, the list contains exactly 25 Founders Crown Ambassadors and above. Also, it is very hard to distinguish between Chinese FCAs and CAs (Jack Zhou is listed here as FCA, however he was listed in Because magazine as CA "only"). Furhermore, they use different pin names in China and their qualification criteria are also different from the rest of the world. So it is likely that they do not count them in the official statistics. For example Sunny Su and Debra Hsu Hsieh were listed in a Hongkong Amagram as Taiwanese Crown Ambassadors "only" (not a word about their Chinese business where they previously achieved Founders CA 50 FAA). In Jan2009 issue of Taiwanese Amagram they were, however, recognized for achieving 55 FAA points. But where??? I assume it was achieved in their second business (China), but does FAA bonus system exist in China??? I am not sure...--SP75 23:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- no idea, I would assume so in some way. I missed excluding them in my count, so you're right about leaving them out to get 25. --IBOFightback 12:18, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
