Talk:Founders Crown Ambassador

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China FAA

How come Foo Howe Kean & Shu Chen, China FAA 55 & Hsieh, Sunny Hsu & Debra, China FAA 55 (2004) will be move to the categories under China FAA? Any evidences prove that they are China FAA but not Taiwan? As I know Hsieh, Sunny Hsu & Debra been recognized in Taiwan but not China. As this video 6:06 showed that Sunny Hsu & Debra Hsieh Taiwan Founders Crown Ambassadors FAA55. --Lee sy85 03:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Guo-Yuan Du & Ya-Qin Zhu aka Matthew Du

Is there any evidence that Matthew Du achieved the Founders Crown Ambassador level in China? The last time I heard of him, he was "only" a Founders Crown. Is there any official announcement? Is there any official list of Chinese CAs and above? Thanks.--SP75 08:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

As I read the notebook that I lend from my upline Diamond, Guo-Yuan Du & Ya-Qin Zhu aka Matthew Du listed under the Category Founders Triple Diamond and China Founders Council Members. The list Crown Ambassadors and Founders Crown Ambassador and China FAA30 are in the same categories.

So I assume that there are no any official Crown Ambassadors pins in China or in the other way the qualification for them is not really the same. As I saw in the Amway Warehouse, the Rolls of Honors got many pictures just those who in my understanding are Crown Ambassadors are above all of the others. As I know in China EDC and above are in the same level. The next level for EDC is Founders Council Members.--Lee sy85 01:25, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Founders Crown Ambassador

There is no pin level at the 45, 55, 65 levels so there should not be a FCA 45 category on these pages. There is only money at this level but it is not a pin level.

I think it's fine to have it recognised here, but note that it is a bonus level only. The money itself is a recognition it has been achieved. --IBOFightback 09:18, 25 April 2008 (CDT)

According to the Feb Australian "Because" magazine there are 25 Founders Crown Ambassadors, so there's something up with our list. One possibility is that Chinese ones aren't counted and they didn't yet have the info on some 2008 qualifiers. --IBOFightback 16:21, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I think these 25 do not include the Chinese pins. If you deduct them, the list contains exactly 25 Founders Crown Ambassadors and above. Also, it is very hard to distinguish between Chinese FCAs and CAs (Jack Zhou is listed here as FCA, however he was listed in Because magazine as CA "only"). Furhermore, they use different pin names in China and their qualification criteria are also different from the rest of the world. So it is likely that they do not count them in the official statistics. For example Sunny Su and Debra Hsu Hsieh were listed in a Hongkong Amagram as Taiwanese Crown Ambassadors "only" (not a word about their Chinese business where they previously achieved Founders CA 50 FAA). In Jan2009 issue of Taiwanese Amagram they were, however, recognized for achieving 55 FAA points. But where??? I assume it was achieved in their second business (China), but does FAA bonus system exist in China??? I am not sure...--SP75 23:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
no idea, I would assume so in some way. I missed excluding them in my count, so you're right about leaving them out to get 25. --IBOFightback 12:18, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Given the increasing numbers of 45/55 FAA recognitions, and the fact Amway is recognizing them at events like Founders, time to split them up here. --IBOFightback 22:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

40 FAA Taiwan

Holly & Barry were recognized as Founders Crown Ambassador 70 in China. In the case of FAA points, you are recognized only for the highest FAA points you earned for a given year (you don't get multiple recognitions from separate markets). Also, the China & Taiwan qualifiers are often mixed up in the case of distributors who have their first business in Taiwan and my guess is that those 40 FAA points were earned in China too. The same with Foo Howe Kean, Sunny Hsu...--Edman 10:22, 7 October 2012 (EEST)

40 FAA

It is a fact! See: Barry Chi & Holly Chen, Foo Howe Kean & Shu Chen--GH 12:51, 7 October 2012 (EEST)