Talk:TOP4
Plum Blossom
I'm guessing the claim of 2000+ diamonds comes from the Barry Chi/Holly Chen achieve article. It however is about their downline, not their organisation. Are all those Diamonds participating in Plum Blossom/Top4? --IBOFightback 10:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- By "organization" you mean LOA? BTW, the article says "in their organization". I assume that it means "in their downline". I doubt that the Corporation would use the number of Diamonds who use their "system". --SP75 11:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm confused...how exactly is TOP4 an LOA when the members (at least three of the four in the picture) are part of other LOAs?--Bridgett 03:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- As I understand it, Top4 is only an affiliation of several lines of sponsorship. Formerly called "Founders Dream Team", they were renamed Top4, because they represent more than 60% of Amway worldwide sales. As far as I know, Top4 does not produce the tools and it holds only one big convention each year. Correct me, if I am wrong...--SP75 07:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
In this years Top4 Global Spring Rally , also "Founders Dream Team" was used as Term.
In the case of Plum Blossom, at least 13 of Chi/Chen's chinese downline Crown Ambassador and their diamond groups are part of Holly and Barrys LOA. (Around 50 - 60% of their chinese Downline). Out of their 5 taiwanese downline crown ambassadors (witch includes at least 70% of the taiwan market) just one CA is active part of plum blossom (plus some crowns), so 25 - 35% of the huge taiwan market is part of their LOA. Of their US downline (they are in crown qualification with several diamonds downline) 100% is part of Plum Blossom. Of their european downline (they have a big spanish/portugese group with at least one downline in diamond qualification. They also have new Platinums in Italy, Russia etcetera) they are part of Eva's and Dr. Peter's LOA on a joint venture like way.
The LOS/LOA between the Leaders and the organizations is growing together, so almost every Top4 has Diamonds (or at least Platinums) in the groups of the other Top4, and their working-together is very close now.
- Interesting stuff, thanks! Their US business is interesting. Does that mean Plum Blossom is operating in the US and undergoing the accreditation process in that name? --IBOFightback 15:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
as the article of taiwan in amwaywiki show that amway taiwan is only have 7 crown ambassador and above.
Barry Chi & Holly Chen, Double Crown Ambassador (2003) 60 FAA (2007) Hsieh, Sunny Hsu & Debra, Founders Crown Ambassador 50 FAA Mark & Peggy Lei, Founders Crown Ambassador 40 FAA (2004) Tu, Johnson & Jennifer, Crown Ambassador (2002) Foo Howe Kean & Shu Chen, Crown Ambassador (2001) Chin Nai Kang & Wang Shu Chen, Crown Ambassador (1994) Chen Tsai Lung & Yang Yueh Hwa, Crown Ambassador (1994)
only 2 crown ambassadors in taiwan are under holly n barry's group. the rest are all under crown ambassador foo howe kean. crown direct liu jian ming are not under holly n barri's loa, but they have the same sponsor. so they are actually are sideline. as the amagram 2004 march, barry n holly stated that in their FAA40 recognition amagram, tu, johnson n jennifer are their sideline which means not under their group. before that there was a statement show that foo howe kean's group occupied 65% of amway south east asia, taiwan, china market.--Lee sy85 00:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)