Talk:Müller-Meerkatz, Dr. Peter & Eva

Are you sure that they are really downlines of Dan & Bunny Williams? I have a video where Eva says that their sponsor had sponsored them and 6 weeks later left Germany and sold his business, so she called Amway to give them the telephone number to somebody whom she pronounced like Lee Pinner???, who has already been in the business in America for 10 years. I think this was probably their upline. She also mentioned that this guy had a brother who was Crown at that time (1976) in Canada. I really don't know any Crown whose name could sound like Lee Pinner. I have a list of all Crowns & above who have qualified from 1970 to May 1979:

Dick & Bunny Marks (Manitoba, Crown Ambassador)

Jim & Sharon Janz (British Columbia, Crown Ambassador)

Peter & Eva Müller-Meerkatz (Germany, Crown Ambassador)

Bernice Hansen (Ada, Crown)

Michel & Cecile Chapdelaine (Quebec, Crown)

Wayne & Kay Beaird (California, Crown)

Sterling & Evangeline Krause (Minnesota, Crown)

Tito & Glorin Bourasseau (Puerto Rico, Crown)

Dennis & Kay Beecher (California, Crown)

Chuck & Jean Strehli (Texas, Crown)

Jerry & Trish Hicks (California, Crown)

Dan & Bunny Williams (Texas, Crown)

Dave & Carol Kendall (California, Crown)

Jerry & Sharyn Webb (Texas, Crown)

Dallas & Betty Beaird (California, Crown)

Gordon & Eddie Ross (British Columbia, Crown)

Frank & Rita Delisle (California, Crown)

Art & Ollie Charlton (Massachusetts, Crown)

Charlie & Elsie Marsh (Georgia, Crown)

Stan & Ruth Evans (Colorado, Crown)

Peter & Eva joined the Amway business in 1976, so some Crowns could live somewhere else at that time (the list is from 1979).

Does anybody know the answer? I will post the mp3 of Eva's speech later this evening.

The speech is here.--SP75 16:14, 4 December 2007 (CST)

I think the Williams upline reference was from QuixtarWiki, no idea who placed it there. "brother" may also have been "brother-in-law" which means may not have the same surname.

The Gibson-Pupera-Echols-Williams LOS reference has originally appeared in 2005 on qblog forum. The person who placed it there was jim70. He wrote: "Crown Ambassador Peter Muller-Meerkatz, who I believe is downline from Elmer Gibson-Pupera-Echols up to Crown Ambassador Dan Williams". I suppose that "I believe" mean he may be wrong.

If Eva is really downline of Dan Williams, then HE should be the Crown from Canada she mentioned, because in Gibson-Purpera-Echols line there is no other Crown. But Dan Williams is from Texas. There is, however, another leg of JaRi which has its roots in Canada - in this leg there are Canadian Crowns Jim Janz, Bob Schmidt, etc. I think that Peter & Eva Müller-Meerkatz are not in Gibson-Purpera-Echols.

Also, Chapdelaine is Crown from Quebec, but I don't know anything about his LOS, I will try to search the old Amagrams. They could be in that leg too...--SP75 06:00, 5 December 2007 (CST)