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Revision as of 02:57, 9 June 2008

An interesting thing about these legs, if they're accurate (found much of it on a qblog post) - I'd say legs 2,3,4,5,6,7 and 8 are pretty much all majority N21 these days. Even the top of leg 1 - Bernice Hansen - is N21. Some of 10 (Jake Funk) is there too. --IBOFightback 16:18, 12 November 2007 (CST)

Crown Ambassadors

wow - we've placed some 36 crown ambassadors now! I'm impressed :-) --IBOFightback 13:59, 12 December 2007 (CST)

JaRi?

I'm not convinced these legs are actually downline of JaRi? As mentioned elsewhere. JaRi has an upline, Maaskant, who apparently was still qualifying as a Founders Emerald in 1998. Also reading the FTC v Amway case, it mentions that DeVos and Van Andel as well as owning Amway, have "one of the largest" Amway distributorships - which clearly means there's plenty of Amway outside JaRi. I'm wondering if perhaps JaRi are at the top of leg 1 and the rest are separate Amway legs?--IBOFightback 16:40, 2 January 2008 (CST)

Rich DeVos stated that they had ended up with approximately 6 good legs. As all legs on amwaywiki contain at least one Diamond, I assume that those would be counted as "good" legs. So some of those legs on amwaywiki probably have different upline. Another problem is that the line of sponsorship can be splitted where international sponsoring takes place.

Rich have also repeatedly stated they do not sponsor people (I assume that his saying "The Corporation does not recruit" means "JaRi does not recruit"), so unless they inherited some of their downline's businesses, there is no way for them to have so many Diamond legs...

I think the only way to trace the original LOS is to go deep into the history, search all the Amagrams for Direct Distributor recognitions and find out who the original upline Direct was. Very hard work.--SP75 17:54, 2 January 2008 (CST)

Mid 90s corporate representatif mentionned that JaRi stacked their original sponsor above them to keep their nutrilite LOS --Caro 10:30am 5 juin 2008 (EST)

Neal Maaskant was placed as JaRi's sponsor. It still has at least 1 active legs outside of JaRi. There were also legs that moved across to Amway with the purchase of Nutrilite. I think at that time JaRi may also have actually become Amway. No idea how Maaskant fits in to that! --IBOFightback 18:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Maaskant must have at least 2 other legs - his distributorship reached the level of Founders Emerald in 1997. I remember Rich DeVos said one time "even those lines of sponsorship that end up with Amway Corporation, we deduct 3% [bonus] and pass it to the Company, because we don't want to be accused of doing something for somebody we don't do for anybody else." So when we put the pieces together, I think the line of sponsorship goes as follows: Amway > Maaskant > JaRi. Though JaRi was the original name under which Jay & Rich conducted their Nutrilite business from Sept 6, 1949 to November 1963 when JaRi was changed to Amway, that was almost ten years before the acquisition of Nutrilite. If Maaskant was placed "above Rich & Jay" (and we know it is true), I assume that JaRi distributorship was formed again and Maaskant was placed between JaRi and Amway Corporation.--SP75 20:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I have heard from more than one source that Rich and Jay weren't ever "Diamonds" because all their business was/is down five (5) legs. Is this inaccurate? --Bridgett 02:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Bridgett, Rich DeVos stated numerous times that they had had 6 Direct legs. But of course, back then there was no Diamond level.--SP75 09:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)