User talk:Gherghel

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Hi, Thanks for your contributions!

There are only 2 confirmed Double Crown Ambassador at Amway. Kaoru Nakajima (40 national, foster or international Platinum Legs, but ALL out of his japanese business) and Holly Chen & Barry Chi (51 Platinum legs, 43 of them national or foster in Taiwan, the rest international of this taiwanese business. Besides of that they have a Founders Crown Ambassador Business in the USA and a Founders Crown Ambassador Business in China).

Some others have more then 40 Platinum Legs like Yena, Natalya (Founders Crown Ambassador in the Ukraine and Crown Ambassador in Russia), Lei, Mark & Peggy (Founders Crown Ambassador in Taiwan and Crown Ambassador in China), Hsieh, Sunny Hsu & Debra (Crown Ambassador in Taiwan, Founders Crown Ambassador in China), Foo Howe Kean & Shu Chen (Founders Crown Ambassador in Malaysia, Founders Crown Ambassador in China, Crown Ambassador in Taiwan, Triple Diamond in Thailand) and others like Britt and Foley. Butt still to be DOUBLE CROWN AMBASSADOR you have to have 40 Legs out of the same business. The others are Two Times Crown Ambassadors, Three Times Crown Ambassador, etc.

(It would be, if you (as a) Double Diamond in one market, and (as a) Diamond in another market, would count together and to be Crown) User:Mastermind

I think the main page looks better with the active LOAs listed, don't you? --IBOFightback 22:42, 9 September 2012 (EEST)

If the same information is in more than one place, it is difficult to keep it accurate and updated in two ore more locations. I suggest to fill the space with something else. The main page should be like a site map with many links and not with too much information. Conclusion: It is redundant to keep it accurate and updated in two ore more locations. Finally, it's up to you to decide.--Gherghel 19:22, 11 September 2012 (EEST)

LOAs are something people are specifically interested in but won't necessarily know about by names like LOA or PDP or such. So yes, I think the active LOAs should remain listed on the front page unless there's too many of them. Makes it easier to find for prospects. --IBOFightback 10:11, 10 September 2012 (EEST)

Pin vs "Pin level"

Changing the template from pin to pin level has "broken" the pages for every Diamond and above page. Changing it back will break it for all the pages where you've changed it. Any particular reason you changed it?--IBOFightback 10:18, 10 September 2012 (EEST)

There is a distinction between pin and pin level but it is not essential. I'll do me best. If I make mistakes it is not on purpose. Thanks for supervising me.--Gherghel 19:26, 11 September 2012 (EEST)

By which you mean "pin level" as currently qualifying? No way to confirm that for most IBOs, so pin (highest level) is what we're left with. By the way, when leaving comments in talk, it's great if you click the second button from the right to leave a signature at the end. --IBOFightback 14:39, 11 September 2012 (EEST)

Patrick & Joyce

Hi, any reason for changing the format of Chronology of Achievements? We are trying to keep it as accurate as we can, so please don't delete the months of qualifications. Also, the current format is in accordance with other Diamond's pages, so changing it here means that we would have to change it for every Diamond where the chronology is available. This would require a lot of effort without providing any new information.--SP75 09:52, 15 September 2012 (EEST)

Where is the accuracy in that:

   Platinum: March 2003 
   Ruby: April 2003 
   Sapphire: June 2003 
   Emerald: August 2003 
   Diamond: July 2004 
   Founders Platinum: August 2004 > ?!!!
   Founders Sapphire: August 2005 > what is the relevance ?
   Executive Diamond: July 2006 
   Founders Emerald: August 2006   > what is the relevance ?
   Founders Diamond: August 2007   > what is the relevance ?
   Double Diamond: February 2010 
   Founders Executive Diamond: August 2010  > what is the relevance ?
   Founders Double Diamond: August 2010 
   Triple Diamond: August 2011 --Gherghel 16:39, 16 September 2012 (EEST)

The chronology of achievements was published in May 2012 issue of Thailand Achieve. It makes sense that they went Diamond before they have qualified Founders Platinum, because they didn't have enough months to qualify as Founders Platinums in their first performance year. They had to wait for the end of the next performance year. Also, the Founders pins are relevant - they show the stability of their legs.--SP75 21:19, 16 September 2012 (EEST)

Diamond page formatting

The "story", or at least an introduction, should be at the top of the page. Most of the visitors to this website are prospects looking for information about Diamonds, that's the info they want. All the qualification dates etc is really only of interest to us Amway geeks :). I've also added some new fields to the person infobox -


I'll play around a little on the J&N Dornan page to get the formatting the way I think it should be. --IBOFightback 14:18, 2 October 2012 (EEST)


At this stage we are only including Diamonds on Amway Wiki. If you encounter pages for non-Diamonds then they should be removed. --IBOFightback 15:04, 2 October 2012 (EEST)

Please, don't try to re-write the history

Hi, please, don't try to re-write the history. Just keep the Amway Wiki as accurate as it can be. DD, or Direct Distributor is still used in some countries. While it is often commuted for Platinum today, it isn't accurate. For example, when someone qualified for DD in 1980's he had to have 3 qualified months, not six. In Japan, for example, there is no Platinum pin. They still have Direct Distributor. So, please, change Platinum back to Direct Distributor wherever you changed it. Thanks.--SP75 13:20, 26 October 2012 (EEST)