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Old Amagrams

I've got some old Amagrams from 1960's to 1980's, but many issues are missing. Would you like to have those recognitions here even if they are not complete?

absolutely, but put a note at the top of incomplete years. Do you happen to have the 1998 Feb Amagram with first time Founders Awards?--IBOFightback 07:31, 1 January 2008 (CST)
OK. Yes, I have Feb 1998 issue.
If you are able to do a scan of ALL of the first time founders lists and email it to me it would be appreciated. I'll OCR it and post it up. Should be some interesting info in that list. --IBOFightback 09:13, 1 January 2008 (CST)
I will send it to you, but it will take some time - it's 26 pages.--SP75 11:08, 1 January 2008 (CST)


Tim & Connie Foley are recognized as Triple Diamond in 1994 and Crown Ambassador in 1998. No Crown Direct? This was before FAA pin qualification wasn't it? --IBOFightback 05:39, 31 December 2007 (CST)

Here is what Feb 1998 issue of Amagram says about Foley:
"Now, the Foleys again celebrate spectacular success, qualifying in 1997 as both Crowns and Crown Ambassadors through their own hard work and the power of their Amway dream."
But their 1998 Amagram recognition is for Crown Ambassador only. If the 1997 list on amwaywiki is complete, it looks that they weren't recognized as Crowns.
Sept 1997, p.44 lists them as Crown Ambassadors.
Ok, so that confirms they did both same time. Amway sees no need for two separate Amagram articles the same issue:-) --IBOFightback 12:59, 31 December 2007 (CST)
Maybe, but when qualified for 2 or more levels simultaneously, Amway would certainly mention it in the recognition title. But this one says only Crown Ambassador, therefore I assume they didn't achieve it simultaneously (in one month). But there is no other Crown recognition of Foleys in Amagram. Curious. I am deleting the Crown recognition from amwaywiki.
Update: Aug 1997, p.43 - Triple Diamonds Connie and Tim Foley; Sept 1997, p.44 lists them as Crown Ambassadors.
Looks like they really achieved Crown and Crown Ambassador levels simultaneously. If Sept 1997 issue was published in Aug 1997, it would mean that they have qualified in July. Can anyone confirm this? Should we leave out the Crown recognition on wiki or should we put it back as it is obvious that their Crown Ambassador recognition was technically a recognition for Crown AND Crown Ambassador?
It's clear they achieved it simultaneously, so list for both for same year.--IBOFightback 01:30, 2 January 2008 (CST)


Dick & Bunny Marks? Or did you mean Dick & Sandee Marks? --IBOFightback 09:24, 1 January 2008 (CST)

apparently Bunny later died and Dick Marks remarried Sandee. --IBOFightback 09:38, 1 January 2008 (CST)
Back then, Bunny was alive, so the Amagram recognition says Dick & Bunny.