Talk:Barry Chi & Holly Chen

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FAA 90

Heard that Barry Chi & Holly Chen in fact they are already qualified for FAA90 just because the highest is FAA70 so they only been recognize as FAA70. Can anybody confirm it? thanks!--Lee sy85 10:50, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Crown Ambassador in the United States?

It is GREAT!!! Is there any official announcement available? Thanks.--SP75 08:15, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

There was a live webcast from Achievers last night that included the recognition --IBOFightback 10:38, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I missed it. Is it available for download? Could you provide me with the link? Thanks.--SP75 11:15, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
http://www.host4video.com/amway/achievers09
It says: Error 404 - Page not found :-(--SP75 13:03, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
same here. Must have been just for the day of the webcast and the day after. --IBOFightback 12:37, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Try here - http://www.host4video.com/amway/achievers09/event --IBOFightback 16:22, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks for the link.--SP75 01:27, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

70 FAA

THAT'S GREAT!!! Is there any official announcement available? Thanks!--SP75 11:52, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

No, but there is official announcement from Top4 group that the recognition for FAA70 will be locate on 6th March 2010 in Taipei.--Lee sy85 11:59, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

MM on Holly Chen & Barry Chi

Hey, this is fascinating! Here is what Eva Muller-Meerkatz says about Holly Chen:

In the meanwhile I had a meeting with Mavi and Hyon from Spain, as well as with Holly and her 13 Crown Ambassadors from China.

September 27th, 2008 Holly is going to get the biggest award in the Amway world: 70 FAA points, and a one-time bonus of € 6.000 000.00! This year she’s qualifying as a new Crown Ambassador in USA. Again a unique achievement. She’s a Double Crown Ambassador in Taiwan, Crown Ambassador with many downline Crown Ambassadors in China, and a new Crown Ambassador in USA with more than 2000 Diamonds in her organization.

Holly & barry will have their FAA60(actually FAA61.5) recognition in taiwan on september 27th . This is an official announcement from one of THE PLUM BLOSSOM group. --Lee sy85 02:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Can anybody confirm that Holly Chen & Barry Chi have already qualified as new US Crown Ambassadors? Also FDSA for 70 FAA first-time qualifiers is € 3,200,000. Does anybody know where Eva got those € 6,000,000?

Hmmm ... that's a year away, so perhaps they don't technically qualify for it until the end of August, 2008? It does say "this year she's qualifying" which I would assume means this fiscal year, so it hasn't happened yet! --IBOFightback 13:56, 29 December 2007 (CST)

Thats right. But they are on track for both!

3,200,000 Euro plus 19% Tax (in germany) is about 3,808,000 Euro or 5,600,000 $.

Maybe I can see it now: the award for first time achivement of 65 FAA is €2,800,000 and for 70 FAA €3,200,000. That's a total of €6,000,000. It looks like they expect to jump from 60 FAA points to 70 FAA...
But, as far as I know, Amway pays FAA awards only for the highest level achieved in a given fiscal year (unlike the OTCA; if you jump from Double Diamond to Crown, you will receive OTCA for Triple AND Crown). So they would probably get "only" €3,200,000. However, the last time they were recognized in Amagram, was for achieving 40 FAA...

Upline

Anyone know who their upline is? The MM blog mention implies they may be in their downline? --IBOFightback 01:05, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

i accidently found this in the web, it mention their upline diamond is amway taiwan.http://translate.google.com.my/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://www.amway.com.tw/event/nutrilite/newspage.aspx%3Fu%3D16&ei=N_vYToHiJZCJrAf1mbjHDQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CGEQ7gEwBQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%25E8%2594%25A1%25E7%25BE%258E%25E7%258E%25B2%25E9%259B%2599%25E9%2591%25BD%25E7%259F%25B3%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D790%26prmd%3Dimvns -- (UTC)
Well, it seems that their upline Diamond is really Amway Taiwan. But they have to have an international sponsor too. Any idea who he/she is? Perhaps it's Beecher...--SP75 07:37, 3 December 2011 (EET)

as i know. when amway taiwan opened, foo howe kean was the first who joint amway business. so foo howe kean's upline in taiwan is amway taiwan. is it possible that barry chi & holly chen also under foo howe kean?

I woundered that, but articles on Foo Howe Kean say he has 800 diamonds. Might be outdated though. --IBOFightback 09:18, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

for the claims for 800 diamonds is only mention those diamond who are still belong Crador network.

i think will be more than 1000 diamonds if include those not in Crador Network. such like Hsieh, Sunny Hsu & Debra, Founders Crown Ambassador 50 FAA is also under Foo Howe Kean's network. but now Hsieh own his own network.
but i don't think barry n holly's organization got more than 2k+ diamond.

coz there was an article show that, whole world got about 4000+ diamonds, if barry n holly got 2k+ diamond, means half of amway global belong to them.

It's hard to believe that Quixtar/Amway would lie about this number in their own publication. The 4000+ number is almost 3 years old and Holly & Barry raised their pin since then by I think 10-15FAA.--SP75 11:44, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

what? the 2000+ diamonds are from quixtar article?? is it true? any article provide?

Yes, there is a recognition of Holly & Barry (new Triple Diamonds in the US). And the article says "more than 2,000 Diamonds". See the Amagram section and watch the newest issue of Achieve.

can you provide the article? or the amagram?

http://www.amwaywiki.com/images/e/e8/Achieve_08June.pdf

thanks. i heard from a crown ambassador under foo howe kean's group, mentioned that foo howe kean in taiwan already achieve FAA points 48 but refuse for any recognition. but this have not been proven by amway taiwan.

barry and holly was been recognize faa60 in amagram issue feb 08 by amway taiwan

Why would he do that? Anyway, are you from Taiwan or Malaysia?--SP75 11:59, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

i am from malaysia. but have some organisation in taiwan.:)

Mr foo is very low profile. heard that want to avoid for kidnapping. he refuse any interview from any media. he refuse recognition for crown ambassador from amway malaysia, and amway china. he did all the recognition 1 time in taiwan.

Hey, that's great! Do you happen to have any Amagram recognitions of Malaysian or Taiwanese Crown Ambassadors? I only have recognitions of Peter Lee & Choi Kit, Sonny & Guat Hwa Ho, and Chan Lee Sean.--SP75 12:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

so sorry.. i only have the amagram for founder crwon ambassador lee kim soon. like Chan koon tin also dnt have recognition for crown ambassador in amagram. peter lee is a very powerful leader. he spent 3 million ringgit to build his dream house just behind former prime minister of malaysia dr mahatir.

Could you please send me the FCA recognition (including cover page) of Lee Kim Soon (in pdf) to sp75@seznam.cz? Also, if you have printed version of Amagram with Holly & Barry 60FAA recog., I would appreciate it too (I only have an internet version of this Amagram). Thanks.--SP75 12:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

i dnt't have pdf version. i only have a hard copy of it. for holly and barry i also read it in internet version.

Could you please scan it to pdf?--SP75 12:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

how to scan to pdf???

if your scanner does not support a pdf format, please send me jpg (or any other image format, such as bmp, tiff...) files. I can convert them to pdf. Thanks.


The number of Diamonds in Amway hit 4000 around 2003 or 2004. Since then every year the number of new Diamonds was between 500 - 700 worldwide. So the total of Diamonds will be 6000 to 7000 now.

The number of new Diamonds in europe in 2007 was 53! Since 2002 there where more then 200 new Diamonds in Europe (as much new Diamonds as in the first 30 Years in Europe!)

The number of new Diamonds and higher new Qualifications in Europe in 2008 was 227!